I need to mount quite a few accessories: windshield, phone holder, heated grips, keyless top box etc. Obviously I want to do it at once because it does not make sense to disassemble the panels more then one time.
In all the forums I've been the topics are related to specific areas - it does not really make sense to make one topic with multiple unrelated questions 
Is there something like that?
I need to mount phone holder and heated grips so will need to disassemble some panels.
I think that the two models serve such different target groups (city scooter vs. rural scooter) that "she or she" doesn't really make sense. That certainly always depends on your usage behavior. For me there was no doubt as I drive my 65 km every day (in good weather). In addition, the SH looks a bit old-fashioned (to me). But the SH drivers probably find the Forza too powerful and not so agile in winding traffic (something I don't do anyway and especially not on country roads & Co.).
But I'm sure there are some who both drove and can share their impressions.
PS: Go to the saddler tomorrow to discuss the extension of the front seat. I would like to take approx. 10 cm away from the pillion riser (my wife is not going anyway) so that I can sit even better with my 1.95m. That was really the only advantage of the test drive with the Vespa GTS at the time, that it was easier to slide into a comfortable position on the long seat.
Forza compared to SH is definitely not too powerful, the 2 HP difference is really not much especially considering SH is about 30kg lighter.
But they have totally different variator configuration, SH is much quicker off the line but Forza has a higher top speed.
Alles anzeigen[user = '75192'] komoornik [/ user]:
I think you've got the point.
But what's the difference in driving comfort, especially in suspension?
Scarcity: Is it possible? about a subjective feeling of (permanently) missing vehicles and more of a classic sales strategy by dealers ("is the last model, we can't get anything in!") or is it really the case that the vehicles are still partly not foreseeable available?
And why do some Honda dealers in particular advertise a large number of scooters, sometimes garnished with "immediately available" or "availability from ..." or even below the list price? Could it be that more vehicles don't occasionally make it to Germany, even if it is in the summer that has just begun and into autumn?
Or was it always just about the low availability now or uncertain / long delivery times?
I am generally skeptical, especially when it comes to statements at the beginning of the year that nothing will come in for the whole year. Do you mean June by the end of the year, September or (like me) December? Because, for example, at the CRF300L or rally, the Honda NL Leipzig is available on 06.09. or 09/10/2021. This is relatively concrete and contradicts the reports that all of the vehicles would be sold out this year. Or do you mean this "model year" because it could already be 2022 models in September?
Sh vs Forza suspension wise is kind of tricky.
I would say Forza definitely has greater suspension travel so at first it feels more comfortable. But most likely smaller wheels are causing just barely less comfort then Sh in terms of potholes etc.
In general I would expect Forza to be much better - but in my opinion it's slightly better.
With Sh I'm able to reach 105-110 km/h (currently without windshield) vs barely 120 km/h on a Forza ( I think I even managed to hit rev limiter a couple of times when going downhill with the V-max).
So in general: Sh wins for city, Forza is better outside the city. But from my POV 125 Forza is not enough to go on any serious trips.
I had a 2 hours test drive yesterday with Forza 125 (I'm a 2021 SH125i owner) - and I can tell it's definitely not for me.
First of all the SH feels much more lively up to at least 60-70 km/h and it's just a true city king in terms of squeezing between cars.
I think if I were to switch to Forza - then not not 125 model, as it felt underpowered for me.
Besides that, a few years back Forza had quite some more premium features compared to lower models - right now it's mostly an electric windshield (which is still too small for tall people anyway).
So I wanted to order the Honda windshield - but it's not available via dealers (no ETA).
I found someone selling the windshield on eBay - claiming it's brand new and complete.
But it came without screws, grommets etc. Basically I only have windshield, left and right arm and cover (1,2,3,9 and 10):
Will something like this work?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/263421093082
Screws and washers I can buy locally for sure.
Because I did a similar mod on my old scooter which did not come with hazard lights from factory.
I just don't know how I did that - because it was like 10 years ago 
Yeah, I have something similar to Louis one from my older scooter. But ordered Tucano Urbano for SH too 
Because there won't be a procedure for this.
Even if so it would cost a fortune.
Here in Poland most of the dealers only have a couple of units of each model with just very little amount coming in the next months.
Alles anzeigenAfter me and the Louis blanket no longer become friends, I kept looking around:
Bagster Boomerang and Tucano Urbano - both permanently mounted on the vehicle, easy to use. I read the instructions for the Tucano and looked at the pictures for the Bagster - both are screwed to the screws on the top of the leg shield under the handlebars on the left and right. In my assumption that this is a screw with a sheet metal nut that can easily be screwed on and off repeatedly, I was apparently wrong - because according to the spare parts catalog, a self-tapping screw is used here. Great - I already know that from my Piaggio X10, the leg cover was attached to a decorative strip with just such a screw. The problem with that: solved 2-3 times and screwed tight the whole thing is noodled, unfortunately there is no sheet metal nut behind it, but probably plastic.
The alternative is the original Honda leg cover or the Tucano - and if the screw connection is worn out - throw away the upper part of the leg shield and replace it. At KFM, the upper part of the leg shield should cost just under € 100.
And another alternative: Bagster SwitchR
A mixture of both systems, permanently mounted on the vehicle, no screw connection on the leg shield but simply fastened with straps. Interesting about the SwitchR: Like the blankets worn on the body, it is more or less closed at the front (it has a tunnel recess). This should prevent drafts that occur in the ceilings that are open at the front, such as the Tucano, where air may enter the left and right of the cladding at the front.
Disadvantage: You can't seem to roll it up like a curtain and leave it rolled up on the roller, like a Tucano, for example.
What did you buy in the end?
Obviously it's not something to ask your dealer - rather DYI 
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Yeah, but it shouldn't be a hard job to retrofit it 
Does anybody know how to adjust the idle RPM on Sh125i 2020+?
I feel like it could use just a touch more - engine is a bit rough, quite some vibrations.
Cannot edit now. 2020+ model.
